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Darkson
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GalakStarscraper
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money is tight ... or I would.
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bouncergriim
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That saddens me greatly and make me glad there are great companies like Impact! out there for us FF fans to go to.
With this new revelation, what is happening to FUBBL? and other online or even local leagues with Grandma Wendy references on their websites.
It also makes me want to never, ever buy anything from Grandma Wendy. FF is the only reason I would buy something from them and now they have lost even that.        |
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Thom
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Holy ratcrap! That is really sad. . . . It feels so wrong.
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Boromir_and_kermit
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Unbelievable...
I just can not understand this decision on any level... its like they want people to hate them.
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brownrob
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TBB is banned here at work, so can anyone give me the gist of whats going on?!
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mepmuff
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| JohnnyP on TBB wrote: | Good evening everybody,
Today I received a letter from the Grandma Wendy Group PLC stating that if I didn't compy with 4 directives within 14 days they would take formal proceedings against me. It saddens me to see Grandma Wendy take such action against a perfectly legitamate fan site that has provided a global communications portal for FF fans, with no intention of conning them out of the millions they make in sales. I feel that I have been stereotypically branded as an Internet con-man. I have been a Grandma Wendy fan for 20+ years and this site has been active for almost 9 of that 20. This site has also had Grandma Wendy staff registered and actively contribute to its content (it may still have).
The assumptions from GWG PLC are that I am making a profit from the donations received by this site. They also point out that consumers may believe TalkBB is connected with Grandma Wendy and the fact the domain name includes Fantasy Football which is an infringement of Grandma Wendy's registered trademark. Now, I am not against their need to ensure their trademarks are not used inappropriately, I feel they could have approached me in a more friendly manner to investigte the purpose of the site and discover that I only wanted to provide a hub for dicussing fantasy football globally. instead, they immediately enter heavy handed.
If they truely believe the donations have contributed to me becoming a wealthy person or that I have made enough money to give up a proper job they are sadly mistaken. The small amount of money donated has gone to pay for the upkeep of the server (when I used my own hardware and hosted it at home) or towards the costs for hosting with an ISP. In short I have been vastly out of pocket to provide TalkBB rather than the other way around. I thank all those that have contributed as it has helped TalkBB survive.
I have been asked to:
Immediately cease and desist from any activity which infringes Grandma Wendy's intellectual property.
either remove remove your website or the reference to 'fantasy football' in your website name.
Remove the donations button from the page.
Confirm by return that you will not infringe Grandma Wendy's intellectual properly rights at any time in the future.
Now, I could simply remove Fantasy Football from the domain by renaming it to TalkBB.com, but that means buying a new domain and time spent sorting everything out. Bearing in mind I hardly visit TalkBloodBowl.com anyway, I can't really be bothered with all that so have decided to let it die. Therefore from Sunday 8 November 2009 www.talkbloodbowl.com will cease to exist.
Should anybody wish to take ownership of the source and contents I will be more than happy to prepare it for transfer, although this will not include the domain name. I will also have to ensure the recipient will not use DB content for anything other than to maintain the forum as part of an existing fantasy football site. This is to ensure passwords and emails do not fall into the wrong hands.
Thank you for your support over the years and for making TalkBloodBowl.com what it is today. Without you all it would have died all by itself many years ago, regardless of donations.
Regards,
JohnnyP
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brownrob
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Thanks man
Grandma Wendy will never ever gain another penny from me, ever, or so help me God. Their loss is Impacts gain. In one fell swoop I reckon they just lost a heck of a lot of business. It will hurt them too when they dont realise it. If a TBBer had kids who also game. Never mind the amount of lurkers on the site who see the whole picture I can see a lot of people boycotting the game.
TBB is a great site to find tourneys and leagues, painting advice etc and if the online resources and community is cut off then who is going to buy a new team to try at a tourney if they cant find one?
It seems to me that its one step to looking at fumbbl, as they have the trademark on the frontpage etc. Perhaps sales of the computer game are poor and they are trying to foolishly funnel all online users into one location
Is the NAF next? What about FF.net? Im sure there will be some sites that
I wont even give them the steam from my ... well you know!
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GalakStarscraper
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| brownrob wrote: | | Is the NAF next? |
They warned the NAF that they were going to do this to them as well (gotta love gratitude eh?).
So the NAF is changing their domain to make Grandma take off.
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GalakStarscraper
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If any of our fans do fan stuff related to our products ... we promise to only love them.
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Norse
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in the worst possible way if you're hotties.. 
or if Gav is drunk enough if you're not.. 
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Dark Lord
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What can I say about Grandma Wendy that I haven't said a million times before?
It's a bunch of morons striving to be assholes.
Oh and I'm glad to see plenty of newcomers to the Grandma Wendy boycott. Welcome my friends, you'll see how easy it is to not buy Grandma Wendy minis very soon.
You'll buy a few minis from other companies and suddenly realize that you don't have to file, snip and reshape pieces just to get them to fit. You will realize that the sculpts you thought were great have awkward bits on them to cover up bad sculpting, and you'll see that other companies have a thing called customer service...so if you do buy a bad item you get a new one for free! It's amazing!
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bouncergriim
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Dark Lord
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I'm continually baffled by how many people are still willing to be a loyal Grandma Wendy customer after hearing, reading and experiencing the the complete contempt Grandma Wendy has for her customers and employees. It's truly remarkable. As is the complete delusion the insane prices and horrible treatment is a small price to pay because her figs are of such a higher standard than the rest of the market.
It may have been true years ago, but it sure is not true now.
Also, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if all of this is just about trying to generate more traffic on their website and possibly Cyanide's.
Makes me wonder if action is being planned for the PBeM client and FUMBBL.
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Pug
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DON'T PANIC!................
TBB is more than likely change it's web domain name and migrate the old threads to a new forum software PHP....
See the "...Silver Lining" on the General Chat" section on TBB
http://www.talkbloodbowl.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=29109
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