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Nyarlathotep

Ball imp for crossroads?

http://www.orcfrombilbao.com/novedades/novedad03.htm

I don't speak spanish so I have no idea what it says, but this could be a great fig for crossroads...
GalakStarscraper

Re: Ball imp for crossroads?

Nyarlathotep wrote:
http://www.orcfrombilbao.com/novedades/novedad03.htm

I don't speak spanish so I have no idea what it says, but this could be a great fig for crossroads...


Okay switching over here ... I'm moving from Impact! Prez to FF consumer:
My biggest problem with the Orc from Bilbao (OfB) figs is the cost for the minis .... man they are expensive. (I do the same level of wincing when looking at the Goblin Forge catalogue ... more power to both of them for being able get buyers at the prices they charge).

I also wish both companies would list the height in mm to the eyes of their figures. Its really tough to understand a figures size and if it "works" for what you have in mind without a scale reference.

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Now Galak is moving from FF consumer back to Impact! Prez for my next comment ....

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I'd also like to comment ... that OfB using the words they are using on their website .... like Troll Slayer and Snot.ling. They are really begging to have Grandma Wendy send them some very unfriendly letters from their legal team. Those are protected Grandma Wendy terms ... one needs to be very careful as the one thing Grandma Wendy really defends are its protected words.

I wish these guys (OfB) luck ... but they are really painting bullseyes on themselves at present.

Galak
fen

Re: Ball imp for crossroads?

GalakStarscraper wrote:
Okay switching over here ... I'm moving from Impact! Prez to FF consumer:
My biggest problem with the Orc from Bilbao (OfB) figs is the cost for the minis .... man they are expensive. (I do the same level of wincing when looking at the Goblin Forge catalogue ... more power to both of them for being able get buyers at the prices they charge).

Agreed, I don't really like the OfB minis for the price. The same thing kept me from the Goblin Forge Minis, though having finally seen the Centaurs in "the flesh" I'll probably get a pair at some point. Mind you, 'some point' is way down the line as I'm currently engaged in painting my backlog of minis and no-one is releasing the kind of minis I really want to paint atm.

I think the Man-Wolf mini spoiled me, I keep pining for a complete "undead" team in the same b-movie style.
Stout Youngblood

I agree with fen, the wolfman and man-wolf figs were great. I to buy two of each to be used for my Norse and Necro teams. I would love a Necro team of the same flavor as those two figs.
GalakStarscraper

Stout Youngblood wrote:
I agree with fen, the wolfman and man-wolf figs were great. I to buy two of each to be used for my Norse and Necro teams. I would love a Necro team of the same flavor as those two figs.
After Phil does the Black Widows Assassin for us ... I'll ask him to work on some B-movie horror players to go with the were-guys.

Galak
fatgoblin

love the figures too! yes they are too expensive for me at the moment as well.
Darkson

I agree they're expensive, but they're soooooo good.
I'm getting them whilst I have the money spare.
fen

GalakStarscraper wrote:
After Phil does the Black Widows Assassin for us ... I'll ask him to work on some B-movie horror players to go with the were-guys.

You have no idea how happy that would make me. Even if it's just something like one of each of the following a Frankenstein's Monster, Skeleton, Zombie (Perhaps with interchangable heads and arms, not fully multipart but some customisation), Armoured Skeleton, Armoured Skeleton carrying Ball, Mummy and a Ghoul (who could look a bit like the thing from the black lagoon.)

I'm sure you can figure out what positions/teams I'd use these for.
GalakStarscraper

I understand everything but the armoured skeleton carrying a ball. PM me as to why him?

Galak
Darkson

Eyptian-based undead quaterback perhaps?
GalakStarscraper

Darkson wrote:
Eyptian-based undead quaterback perhaps?
Oh ... but he wouldn't be Egyptian based in the armour ... so if that is the thought ... I understand it ... but he would definitely be horror team based and not Egyptian team based (we already have one of those in the works).

And Fen ... you would want a runner type fig ... or a thrower type fig for the armoured skeleton?

Galak
Norse

I echo Tom's comments, I like a lot of the stuff I see from GF, OfB, but the prices are astronomical (i.e. more than Grandma Wendy in some cases )..

we try to do business as fairly as possible to keep the hobby alive and the company (just) above water...

I guess we have a different objective in why we are doing what we do..

for me, it's all about the hobby, that's why I joined Impact and that's why I spent the hottest April weekend ever inside painting..
sebco

I never saw the OrcFromBilbao guys and, so, don't know how they have chosen their minis price but, concerning GoblinForge, I think their prices are a bit too expensive 'cause of the small quantities they order. And the price they pay to the sculptors and to the company which make the minis. That's why they have chosen to make Micheline in resin and not in metal 1 year ago (not to be too expensive) but Fantasy football minis fans wanted metal minis. So, according to me, you can't compare their price policy with Grandma Wendy price policy.

As customer, I understand what you say about GoblinForge and OrcFromBilbao prices, and I appreciate Impact! prices policy, but I think Impact! is more profesionnal and more well-organized than GF and OFB which may be just very small companies with just one guy taking care of everything. I'm really not sure they are just some kind of vultures taking fantasy football minis fans' money as vampires drink their thralls' blood. And, reading your last posts, I may understand you think something like that about them (but english is not my mother tongue so I maybe didn't really understand what you wanted to say).
GalakStarscraper

sebco wrote:
I'm really not sure they are just some kind of vultures taking fantasy football minis fans' money as vampires drink their thralls' blood. And, reading your last posts, I may understand you think something like that about them (but english is not my mother tongue so I maybe didn't really understand what you wanted to say).


WOOOOOH! ... Never said that ... never implied that!!!

Saying that something is expensive does NOT mean that I think the company is gouging its customers AT ALL!

It just means they are expensive. My shoes are expensive and I wince everytime I purchase a pair as they cost $300 a pair (150 GBP) and I've never thought once I was being gouged by them.

I'm sure their company model drives the prices and for their expenses that the prices are fair ... I've never thought otherwise. However this doesn't mean that their company model doesn't create prices that make me avoid ordering the figures myself.

So please note that there is a huge difference between saying something is expensive and saying someone is overcharging (miles and miles of difference).

I have nothing but respect for anyone trying to make their own company in a niche market. Its not easy.

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than GF and OFB which may be just very small companies with just one guy taking care of everything.

Hey we are just 3 guys taking care of everything ...

Galak
Hoomin_erra

Well the Albabowl will have OfB mini's as prizes if this tempts anyone to come. They're sending me 1 of each of their mini's.

No tom, i haven't forgotten, can you get me a GBP list? And i'll send in a list.
sebco

Thanks for the precisions Galak.

As I had written it, I note that Impact! minis are cheapest than GoblinForge or OrcFromBilbao ones (also than Grandma Wendy ones but that's another story ).

And reading Norse "we try to do business as fairly as possible to keep the hobby alive and the company (just) above water... I guess we have a different objective in why we are doing what we do..." I thought it was a kind of comparison between Impact! and other small companies like GF and OfB, saying that Impact! did that fairly and just for the hobby and that it was different for the other companies. But as I said, english is not my mother tongue and I sometimes don't understand the real meaning of some sentences.

That said, as customer, I buy all the fantasy football minis I really want for my teams. The price becomes important for me when I buy the minis for the collection and not to really play with them (hum, if some minis would cost some bilions euros, I would change my mind).
Lychanthrope

sebco wrote:
But as I said, english is not my mother tongue and I sometimes don't understand the real meaning of some sentences.


Sebco, I only had French 1 in college then spoke Haitian Creole for two months when living there so my ability to speak anything other then english is minimal at best. I didn't learn french well enough to say this for other languages, but I can say it for english; we do not always hear what the other person is actually saying. English is easy to miscomunicate with. Especially when done without face to face contact. Your ability at english shames those of us who only know english and we appreciate your attempts. Keep talking, we're listening.
GalakStarscraper

Lychanthrope wrote:
Your ability at english shames those of us who only know english and we appreciate your attempts.
Agreed ... 6 years of French for me in school and while I can read it a bit ... writing and speaking ... not a chance. So no problems.

The reason I wanted to post was because if Impact! really takes off we do hope at some point to offer more items in our Side Impact! range. For instance before working on the Beach Brawl felt mats ... we talked it over with the guys at GoblinForge and got their agreement to allow us to do it.

So I want to be clear that we as a company hold our competition in only the highest respect ... I wouldn't link to our competition on the links page if I didn't.

Galak

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