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GreedySmurf

FF Team I'd like to see

Just thought I'd put my 2 cents in about a FF team I would love to see.

Killer Clowns.

I honestly don't know how much popular appeal they would have, so hence if you could make money off them, but I would love to see an entire team of clowns resembling something out of Stephen King's IT.

I keep thinking of the catchers/runners being modeled as clowns hunched over on those teensy bikes Or the blitzers hiding a massive wooden sledgehammer behind their backs

Maybe I'm just twisted, and you should all go about your business, nothing to see here, move along, move along.
Dark Lord

What about scarecrows?


Actually I was sitting on the...ahem...sitting in my reading chair flipping over my Monster Manual think about races for Elfball that haven't been used by that other company and I had a few thoughts.


Driders- or just someting similar. Half human (or elf) and half spider. These guys could have awesome catching abilities, and maybe leaping or something too.

Snakemen- Very fast and maybe with great striking ability but not much else.

Centaurs- I think there's something like this coming up, or at least there was the last time the grapevine tangled around my way. But I would also like to see a just plain Centaur team. Or maybe Centaur big guys?

Changeling- This could be really fun. They could be a team of Changelings who "level up" in generic ways. Then they can assume the abilities of their opponents. For example they wouldn't get a specific skill but rather a skill slot. So for example, a team of changelings plays a team of Deadlings. Each changeling assumes the form of one person from the other team. He gains all of that Deadling's abilities that he has available slots for, with all the of 'basic and advanced' requirements etc.

Mudmen- Easiest miniatures to paint ever! But also just cool and would be hilarious in football gear.

Gargoyles- They would just have to be good at a running game!

Nymphs- would be a lot of fun to paint too!

Beast Men- This should be done asap. Real beastmen like Grandma Wendy used to do. All kinds of beast things. Cats, dogs, flies, horses, etc. I'd be interested in these for RPG games too.

Clockwork Automatons- This could be real fun team. A couple techie-wizard dudes and a bunch of little clockers running around.

Anthropomorphic Insects- This would be cool as shizz! I would want to own a bee or ant team. A queen and a bunch of drones. Or they could be H.R. Giger-esque.

Elementals- See mudmen.

Now there's also the idea of demons. I think impact would be smart to hop on some demonic looking football minis. It's something people have wanted in Bludd Bowel for years but could never get a good team for.
Give them devil minis as proxies for the Chaos teams.


Now looking through these books I also looked at a lot of floating guys and I thought about a funny team of Beholders.
Just giant floating heads in football helmets with eye stalks or tentacles sticking out...maybe have one with a ball in his mouth or something! Hilarious! IMO.
Lychanthrope

Dark Lord wrote:
What about scarecrows?

I like this one

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Centaurs- I think there's something like this coming up, or at least there was the last time the grapevine tangled around my way. But I would also like to see a just plain Centaur team. Or maybe Centaur big guys?

A Centaur & Satyr team would be good.

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Gargoyles- They would just have to be good at a running game!

I like this one. I've got a Gargoyle mini that I was going to make into a ref because I wanted one on my field.
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Nymphs- would be a lot of fun to paint too!

You should get a lot of yeses for this one if the female minis I see are any indication.

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Anthropomorphic Insects- This would be cool as shizz! I would want to own a bee or ant team. A queen and a bunch of drones. Or they could be H.R. Giger-esque.

Would be interesting. Built in armour, but if you break armour injury is way up. -1 to armour +1 to injury

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Now there's also the idea of demons. I think impact would be smart to hop on some demonic looking football minis. It's something people have wanted in Bludd Bowel for years but could never get a good team for.
Give them devil minis as proxies for the Chaos teams.

Big demons would too powerful, but demonettes would be fun and very unique looking.


I'm still voting for a lycanthrope team.
GalakStarscraper

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Anthropomorphic Insects


This is on the very very very long term list.

Just to be clear ... Impact! has a list of the figures that we are going out and paying folks to sculpt for us ... so this stuff has a timeline.

But if a talented amateur sees a spot he wants to work on ... the Targeted range is always open for ideas.

Galak
Dark Lord

Horrible little doodle I did with a marker and photoshop.

I'll do a nicer one later but the image makes me laugh. It also convinces me that a Beholder team is needed needed needed!!

GalakStarscraper

Interesting ... not on our short term list ... but interesting ...

Galak
FILAMENT

I think that you should side step the typical fantasy setting a bit, I would like to see the following:

Vicars and Tarts (instead of Vampires)

Juggers (See Blood of Heroes)

Droogs

Pirates

Hazing Frat Boys (see Animal House; complete with togas and sweaters)

Grannies (see Monty Python)
Dark Lord

If orcs get made they should be the frat boys. Although Kingdom of Loathing may not agree.
GalakStarscraper

FILAMENT wrote:
I think that you should side step the typical fantasy setting a bit, I would like to see the following:

Vicars and Tarts (instead of Vampires)

Juggers (See Blood of Heroes)

Droogs

Pirates

Hazing Frat Boys (see Animal House; complete with togas and sweaters)

Grannies (see Monty Python)



Just remember ... I need at 100 figures to sell of anything we make for it to even START to be of interest. Some of those ... I'm not sure we could sell (ie Grannies).

Galak
Mephisto

What about a female team? As there are no female players in normal teams, then it would be ok to have a female team.
Dark Lord

Mephisto wrote:
What about a female team? As there are no female players in normal teams, then it would be ok to have a female team.


Um...

Black Widows and Valkyries aren't enough?
GalakStarscraper

Dark Lord wrote:
Mephisto wrote:
What about a female team? As there are no female players in normal teams, then it would be ok to have a female team.


Um...

Black Widows and Valkyries aren't enough?
That was my question.

Galak
Mephisto

GalakStarscraper wrote:
Dark Lord wrote:
Mephisto wrote:
What about a female team? As there are no female players in normal teams, then it would be ok to have a female team.


Um...

Black Widows and Valkyries aren't enough?
That was my question.

Galak


ooopsss, don't know where my mind was...
Raghaillagh

A human team of Celts with druids as coaching staff.

Based on the norse FF list, with 'warped ones' (in the style of Cúchulainn or 2000ad's Sláine) instead of ulfrenyr. Maybe a giant for a big guy.

If I could sculpt, I'd do them meself. *sigh*
mrschutte

Female teams and other ideas

GalakStarscraper wrote:
Dark Lord wrote:
Mephisto wrote:
What about a female team? As there are no female players in normal teams, then it would be ok to have a female team.


Um...

Black Widows and Valkyries aren't enough?
That was my question.

Galak


To be BLUNT- NO. Hey, I dig and support Impact! as much as I can do (given my budget restrictions), but the Phil's Figs have NEVER really gotten me going. And the Valks and Widows are Phil's stuff.

I think Mephisto and Lycan have a point. Team sculpted to the quality of the Zlurpee Beauty and Referee Red would make an AWESOME team.

My only caution would be to make them the same quality without resorting to "cheap/overly sexual." I cannot bring myself to purchase some team (especially for my school game club) given the scantily/suggestively clad nature of some figures. I think there is a way to make a figure sexy/attractive without crossing the lines of good taste.

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That said I really liked the idea of the Gargoyle team and the later suggestion of the "frat boy" team. (Was not as hot on the togas, but the preppy letter sweaters were a MUST!) Who wouldn't want to bust on these guys? Especially if you made some sort of lovesick groupie/cheerleader figure to go with them. I envision her posed to rest her hands on the QB's shoulder.

I have wanted to see a version of Grandma Wendy's future skeleton army (a body part between the shoulders and head + the Anthropologist from Friends - a few letters), so the Clockwork Army team had appeal. Besides it always seemed to me that between dwarven craftsmen and Gnome tinkering, that such a team jus t had to emerge somewhere...

I don't know that FF should necessarily be limited to an "ancient world" environment. I would think that a "future" world or "alternate" world settting could provide any number of exciting possibilities for teams.

I am also a fan of "clean" figs. Ones that can look sharp with minimal skills. Many of the figures Impact! has done are fantastic in their detail, but there is no way a 10-thumbed guy like myself would ever hope to paint a Deadling well. I heard other far more skilled painters express some concerns about painting them. I LOVED the Frogman figure, because it was simple. If I had the skill, I could add spots, tones, etc. By changing my paint, I could differentiate types of frogs or positions without needing lots of different models. This is a HUGE bonus for me as it allows me to get the kinks worked out of the paint scheme and allows my team to still look cool. (I also like uniformity in my figs- in REAL football, Payton Manning doesn't wear a different uniform from Marvin Harrison, so why do most FF figures have such wildly different uniform designs for figures on the same team?-- But I know that this is a point that only half of you might agree with me on.)

Anyways... these are just a few of themany stray thoughts going through my head after reading this thread. I'll go back to hiding/lurking in the corner now.
Mephisto

My turn now...

- Amaxos team: Alternative amazon models to Grandma wendy's ones. Referee red is a beginning, but I would like to see some others.

- Evil dwarfs. I know you have one, but really, the minis don't look good. Have a look at what Juza is doing in the Spanish FF Forum. Especially important are hobgoblins, because except those of Grandma Wendys there are no alternatives.

- Magician theme team. Have you think in doing a team inspired on the Harry potter movies? I like a lot when they were dressed in their quidditch uniforms.


- Futuristic theme team. Something inspired in Futuresport or the latest version of rollerball:


- Knight team. If Bretonia is going to be official (and it will be, be sure of it ) it would be cool to have some miniatures. And even if its not official it would be very cool and a lot of people would buy them.




- Salute of the Juggers would be very cool.

- Celtic team is a good idea too.

- Horrror movie theme based team, where you could include Vampires, Thralls, Weres and Golems (alternative models to Grandma Wendy).

- Centaurs OK too. Have a look on "Cenarius" for Warcraft III.
Darkson

Mephisto wrote:
- Knight team. If Bretonia is going to be official (and it will be, be sure of it )


You think? Not from what I'm hearing.
Darkson

I've always wanted to see a futuristic version of that other game, based in the 40K universe (though not a straight port, I was thinking something along the lines of 2000AD's Aeroball/Inferno/Mean Arena).
That said, I'm really not sure where a team like the one above would fit in, unless you made 4+ futarisitic team. I personally have no desire to see tech-geeks vs Barbarians on an Elfball pitch.
Jonny_P

Robot team.
Dark Lord

Yeah robots, steam punk, cyborgs, and mutants!!!
JumpingElf

Dark Lord wrote:
Yeah robots, steam punk, cyborgs, and mutants!!!



... and make a cyberware conversion sprue with robot arms, legs etc.!
Igor Tahavanale

Darkson wrote:
I've always wanted to see a futuristic version of that other game, based in the 40K universe (though not a straight port, I was thinking something along the lines of 2000AD's Aeroball/Inferno/Mean Arena).
Started work a while back on something along these lines, but using different influences. Played on a slightly smaller pitch with less players and a totally different scoring system. The original test version played really well for a mock up, but then my two play testers moved away A shame really, 'cos it was very fast and high scoring (if still at an extremely basic stage, like three games ).

I'd like to see something futuristic too is where I'm going with this really...
Jonny_P

Monkey team.
Dark Lord

ttias

A philosopher team (think monthy pythons soccerteams :) )

There are way to few philosopher minis.
fen

Personally, I'm not that bothered about seeing more teams. I'm pretty excited about some of the ones already out (and coming out).

But if I was going to get excited about a potential new team. It would be steam punk style robots. Powered by either steam, clockwork or a mix.
Dark Lord

fen wrote:
Personally, I'm not that bothered about seeing more teams. I'm pretty excited about some of the ones already out (and coming out).

But if I was going to get excited about a potential new team. It would be steam punk style robots. Powered by either steam, clockwork or a mix.



I'm currently fascinated by a Clockwork/Automaton team as well.

I think this minis (although done by Reaper) is very close to what I would like to see.
GalakStarscraper

fen wrote:
pretty excited about some of the ones already out (and coming out).
Looks like we might soon have a Street Brawl Dwarf team ready to come out with 7 different poses (which would allow you to field a different miniatures for each position for either Street Brawl or Bowl).

I really like this team as it really captures the feel of inner city Dwarves really well to me. Ramsay thinks you'll like it also. The team is coming over to me from France and hopefully we'll have it cast up and in the shop by year-end.

Galak
JumpingElf

GalakStarscraper wrote:
fen wrote:
pretty excited about some of the ones already out (and coming out).
Looks like we might soon have a Street Brawl Dwarf team ready to come out with 7 different poses (which would allow you to field a different miniatures for each position for either Street Brawl or Bowl).

I really like this team as it really captures the feel of inner city Dwarves really well to me. Ramsay thinks you'll like it also. The team is coming over to me from France and hopefully we'll have it cast up and in the shop by year-end.

Galak


Tarota

Dark Lord wrote:
I'm currently fascinated by a Clockwork/Automaton team as well.


Thirded.

All of them laughed, but soon they will see,
Ruling the world is our destiny,
Starting with this game will do, so
Fight on, Trans Poly U!
Darkson

Dark Lord wrote:

I'm currently fascinated by a Clockwork/Automaton team as well.

I think this minis (although done by Reaper) is very close to what I would like to see.


I like the idea as well, but not if they looked like this model. Not one of Reaper's best (imo of course).
fen

Yeah, it does look more art nouveau/golden age super robot than steam punk. Not really the look I'd hope for.
pat

if you have a roster & some pictures i can make a clockwork team for vassal elfball...

Pat
Illustranger

http://www.creafigs.com/forums.ph...osts&q=9426&n=last#bottom

this made me immediately think insect team (tough mentioned before.)
nice midfielder :)
potential add ons :
wasp - runner type
beetle - either monster or blockade
mantis - blitzer
flea - little guys
pat

Good

Insectoids...
i think if you want to be attractive it's important to have # teams than B.B.
The siringits, samhaino, deadlings are very differents...
purpose a roster and i make the icons!!!
Pat
Dark Lord



Monkey ball!!
GalakStarscraper

Dark Lord wrote:
Monkey ball!!
Wait a few more months. You'll be surprised. (won't say any more).

Galak
Xtreme

Planet of the Apes team?
GalakStarscraper

Xtreme wrote:
Planet of the Apes team?
No ... sorry ... tournament limited fig.

Galak
Dark Lord

I think he's talking about his new variant.
Thom

Orc Frat Boys have me drooling. . . Someone suggested preppies and lettermans jackets, so perfect that it just has to be!

Picture the buff preppy orc with perfectly parted hair and sweater!

Now look back at football uniforms from the early 1900s up into the 1930s, simple leather pads and helmet over an athletic sweater. This just BEGS to be done!    

This could easily spawn an entirely new genre in tabletop fantasy football games!

Picture the Ogre recruited for their team, clean and spiffy with adoring orc debs neatly dressed in sweaters, skirts and bobbysocks hanging off each arm!  (I have tears in my eyes from laughing so hard right now )

Now I realise that DL's KoL ref was for a slightly different Orc Frat Boy, but this image has become so entrenched in my mind that it just has to be!

Of course, I still want to see the Scarecrows & Centaurs!    

And Robots, and Nagas, and Winged Monkeys wearing fezz's and Ninjas and Pirates and Were and . . . . And . . . .  
Dark Lord

Had this splinter in my brain for some time now...



Finally sat down at the kitchen table with my sketchbook and scribbled it out. (God I wish I had a proper studio space!)

Anyway, I think it's a good start. I may or may not tweak it from here and maybe just do some new poses, limb & head swaps and general design type sketches. The drawing has some quirky anatomy flaws I need to work out but they will work out in future sketches...now that I am working out and lifting weights I feel like I have more energy than I ever had!
I'll be doing more sketches of this guy soon...thinking about a good old arm cannon.

Then it goes in line behind the 4 teams I'm painting, the Beholder referee that I am redoing (my first sculpt with procreate was not that great...but I salvaged some of it), and the 200 glasses I'm etching for wedding favors.  
Darkson

That's more like it!

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