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GalakStarscraper

Final Images for Impact! D6s

First things first ... huge thanks to Fen and fatgoblin for their assistance with this design.

Okay guys let me know your honest thoughts before we go to press on these.

We'll sell them in sets of 3 for 4,00 GBP, 6,00 Euros, $7.25 USD, $8.00 CAD, $10.00 AUD

The first run (and we'll do more if these sell in other colours) planned will be Black dice with Red ink, Gold ink, and Silver Ink.

So for that price with this design ... would you buy them?

Large size


Actual size of image on the D6:


And for those of you that love Chessex's colours. Once this ball gets rolling ... I'll do a special order from Chessex. The cost will be $20 for a set of 3 ... but you'll be able to order your own dice style and ink colour from Chessex's custom list. Each person will be able to order exactly what he wants for this price.

Okay ... thoughts?

Galak
Bonehead

I like the designs. Only thing is that the "2" abd the "3" seem to be a bit too far to the right. I know they are in the middle but it is an optical issue.
I would buy them.
Chairface

Those are fantastic! Way to go Fen.

They are a definite must for me.
Grotuk

I'll buy them for sure.
fen

Bonehead wrote:
I like the designs. Only thing is that the "2" abd the "3" seem to be a bit too far to the right. I know they are in the middle but it is an optical issue.
I would buy them.

You're right, I hadn't noticed that when I sent them to Tom. That's something that can be rapidly fixed no problem, they only need moving a couple of pixels to the left and the issue will disappear.
Nyarlathotep

I actually liked the round-top skull a bit better than the rounded-square top.

Not that it matters, I love the whole concept, and I'll be buying some.

Black/Gold all the way.
GalakStarscraper

fen wrote:
You're right, I hadn't noticed that when I sent them to Tom. That's something that can be rapidly fixed no problem, they only need moving a couple of pixels to the left and the issue will disappear.
Fen ... I did that. The font for the numbers wasn't the Times New Roman bold that I really liked so redid the numbers in that font. I also modified the ! points as well ... as the Impact! ones looked "cold" graphically to me (not sure if that conveys my thoughts)

So the 2 and 3 are my bad ... I can shift them over to the left a bit and repost.

Galak
fen

Oh ok, I'm working on my laptop downstairs atm, so I couldn't compare to the originals. I do prefer the changed fonts and '!'s. Especially the '!'s, they looked so natural I didn't even notice the change.

I'm glad the 'IMPACT!' looks ok as well.
GalakStarscraper

Reloaded .. better?

Galak
Grumbledook

black with red?

going to match the green with red block dice no one can see eh ;]
GalakStarscraper



Which one is better??? I did a round type quickly with photoshop ... if that one was highly preferred I'm hoping Fen could do a cleaner line for the skull top ... but the question is ... flat top or round top?

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And Grumble ... you don't have to buy them if you cannot read them. That's why we'll have 3 ink colours. And my Vampire team really wants black and red dice. It was also one of the one highly voted for colour combos when we did the colour voting thread.

Galak
Igor Tahavanale

I was going to say round top for the skull too, but seeing them together I prefer the flat top myself. It also adds a nice distinction between the effect of one skull or two skulls on the dice (well, it does in my head anyway ).

For the colours... it's a choice of black, black, or black. That might not help the sales you wanted to enable you to produce the other colours. I realise the inks are different colours (just, two sets are metalic) but it is in essence a choice of one. Perhaps ditch a metalic for a light ink if they will all be black (red, silver, white/yellow for instance), to make a dice that actually has a vistual Impact(!).

Just thinking out loud.

Oh, and to answer the original question... Yes. I'll buy them. I can think of a few others who don't post who will too.
GalakStarscraper

Igor Tahavanale wrote:
For the colours... it's a choice of black, black, or black. That might not help the sales you wanted to enable you to produce the other colours. I realise the inks are different colours (just, two sets are metalic) but it is in essence a choice of one.

Just thinking out loud.


The way the dice manufacturer works is that they do multiple ink colours on a single dice colour for one price. Everytime you change dice colours it costs a couple hundred GBPS. Ink colour changes on the same colour dice only cost 5 GBP extra.

So we hope this makes sense why the first batch will be one dice colour with multiple ink colours.

We'd love to start with 3 colour of dice each with 3 to 4 colour of ink ... but we don't have 1000 GBP laying around for this project. (1000 GBP is enough for us to have a professional sculptor create 5 new figures for our store ... just to put this in perspective).

Galak
Igor Tahavanale

GalakStarscraper wrote:
The way the dice manufacturer works is that they do multiple ink colours on a single dice colour for one price. Everytime you change dice colours it costs a couple hundred GBPS. Ink colour changes on the same colour dice only cost 5 GBP extra.Galak
Ouch!

Thought it might be something like that, but incase the price differential was doable within a lower price rise thought I'd voice the opinion.

I'll have the dice anyway, and hope they sell well enough to finance another run so I can have those too!
fen

It would take 2 mins for me to do a round top if that was desired. Not a problem either way. The package I use allows for curving straight lines by hand, the one thing that does stand out is the forehead becomes a lot bigger and results in a large space there, it could be possible to curve the head and reduce the perception of that space. It would involve starting the curve from a lower point (around the temples) I think. I'll probably try it out and see before turning in for the night anyway. If I do I'll email you the .eps files Tom and you can make a decision yourself.

I'll certainly pick up some Black ones, but I'll really be waiting for Purple + Black (or whatever.. Gold or white works as well) in the later runs. So I do hope there will be a purple set somewhere down the line.

Not that I have a thing about purple, no siree...
Chairface

I'm liking the flat top. These are going to be great.
GalakStarscraper

fen wrote:
It would take 2 mins for me to do a round top if that was desired.
I'm thinking I like the flat top as well with the side by side.

I do hope to be able to do purple and blue sets as well. Also want to get yellow at some point. So these are all on this list.

Like I said ... any rich uncles who can leave 10000 GBP to Impact! in their wills ... we have a lot of projects that can move from there.

At this point I should mention that we've had 4 folks offer to be silent investment partners with Impact! to help with money for projects. I just wanted to say ... THANKS! to anyone who has offered to do so. At this time ... we are not ready to go in that direction. Our company isn't even a year old yet so we just need some time to grow. We'll get all these projects in the door eventually ... just need time and patience on some of them.

Galak
Bonehead

Another little alteration I'd like to suggest is the points of the "!". The points should all have the same space between them (and the lowest ones turned a bit more downwards at the outside). Like this:
djengis_khan

cool, cooler, very cool, cold, ice cold!

Djengis
GalakStarscraper

Bonehead wrote:
Another little alteration I'd like to suggest is the points of the "!". The points should all have the same space between them (and the lowest ones turned a bit more downwards at the outside). Like this:



Hmmm ... thanks for that Bonehead. I guess I'm looking for other thoughts.

I actually like the original look more than the perfect spacial look. Something about a bit of the chaotic feel of the game and the look of the original art might be driving this. And it might just be my taste.

Galak
GalakStarscraper

fen wrote:
Not that I have a thing about purple, no siree...
Fen the place we are getting the dice made by does colour matching.

So just curious can you give me a square the colour of purple you would use as the base dice colour? Something for me to think about.

Galak
Xtreme

Will we be able to order single dice?
I'd like to have a set of 4 rather then a set of 3.
Hoomin_erra

Erm, can we not go Purple? We already have a set of purple NAF dice. I would have thought a nice impact yellow or orange would be better.
fen

Bah hoom, you might have a set of Purple dice, but I've never even seen that set for sale. Instead I have the 'anti-colour' dice. Whoopie...

Anyway I don't think purple would be considered for the opening colour, black is a lot more sales friendly. Black goes with everything.

As for what purples I like.

These and the purple in the top background in this picture.
Sorry, I'm lazy and I couldn't be bothered to resize this. It was from a sketch I did for a friend.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/styfen/Art/Zorakb.png
Darkson

Rounded skull for #1.
Boneheads changes for #5.


But either way, I'm in for a set (maybe 2).
Norse

Darkson wrote:

Rounded skull for #1.
Boneheads changes for #5.
But either way, I'm in for a set (maybe 2).


ditto
ditto
ditto

that man Darkson is a real genius IMHO..
Hoomin_erra

Sorry, but i like the square skull, and the random !
GalakStarscraper

Xtreme wrote:
Will we be able to order single dice?
I'd like to have a set of 4 rather then a set of 3.
Yeah ... I'll have an option for a single die on the store.

Galak
fatgoblin

I liked the old round skull in the other thread too, but prefer this square skull to the round one. I guess it would only work if it didn't have that long straight side. But I think its fine the way it is.

I also prefer the first ! set up.

As for colours, I think I'll go for silver on black.
Darkson

Norse wrote:
that man Darkson is a real genius IMHO..


I agree - someone should sign him up. ;)

Shame that Rob can't see the genius though.
GalakStarscraper

fatgoblin wrote:
I liked the old round skull in the other thread too
Cannot really do that ... that image was made for a square and the image for the dice needs to work with a circle.

Galak
lahatiel

I like the flat skull, but either pattern on the "5" looks fine to me.

I voted for the black/red color scheme, and I'll be buying some of those -- maybe some black/silver, too. :)
Babs

Quote:
I actually liked the round-top skull a bit better than the rounded-square top.


The problem is that they are not 'true' but rather 'merged'.

You've chamfered the edges of the flat top skull - so you have a 'half round, half flat' which is nowhere land.

I prefer a true flat top skull like the one pictured here:


or even this:



Rather than the compromise 'half - half' approach that appears to be the situation. Both the original options are better than a compromise - as a design style.
Babs

Just to clarify further:



The problem with both of these is the straight sides of the skull (where sideburns would go) combined with the curve at the top. In my previous post you can see that Fatgoblin's curved skull does not have flat sides at all. This is preferable IMO.

Otherwise, if you do straighten the sides, then flat the top properly - the large curves between the flat sides and the flat top do not do the 'stylised' design justice.
Darkson

The one in Babs' 2nd pic is my fave (though not on Orange dice! ).
GalakStarscraper

Darkson wrote:
The one in Babs' 2nd pic is my fave (though not on Orange dice! ).
Sorry Darkson that does nothing at all for me. It looks like a dented bowling bowl to me. (no offense to Babs meant).

We are not going to get perfect symbols that everyone loves ... even the partners of Impact! cannot agree on a skull symbol. So I'll probably just pick one since this is my partner pet project and make it happen.

Galak
Bonehead

I like the square skull with flat top. The round one was adjusted to best fit the round faced dice but we have covered that with the design we now have with the circle around the symbols.
GalakStarscraper

Bonehead wrote:
I like the square skull with flat top. The round one was adjusted to best fit the round faced dice but we have covered that with the design we now have with the circle around the symbols.
The circle around the symbol will not actually appear on the dice. It is part of what the dice company requires with your design to show that your artwork is designed for a circular face.

Galak
fen

ugh, I really dislike both of those designs. The square one just looks wrong for a dice.

I'll trust Tom's judgement on the designs. Can't make everyone happy as it would result in about a million different dice designs.
Chairface

fen wrote:
I'll trust Tom's judgement on the designs. Can't make everyone happy as it would result in about a million different dice designs.


Sounds like a plan to me. You design them, I'll buy them.
GalakStarscraper

Barring a partner jumping in with a veto ... these are the designs we are looking at sending on at this time.

Only the image INSIDE the circle will appear on the dice. The circle itself will not appear.

Igor Tahavanale

All looks good to me. I'm in.

Now all we need are some D16's
GalakStarscraper

Igor Tahavanale wrote:
All looks good to me. I'm in.

Now all we need are some D16's
I believe we'll be getting some of those as well before the end of the year.

Galak
Darkson

Not the best designs, but I'll still get a set.
Xtreme

I kinda like the circles around the images.
Igor Tahavanale

GalakStarscraper wrote:
Igor Tahavanale wrote:
Now all we need are some D16's
I believe we'll be getting some of those as well before the end of the year.
Sweet.
Torg

Don't care for the square skull and I really thinkt hat the numbers need to be bigger, don't think you need as much space between the numbers and the graphics (so make the numbers a bit bigger to fill the space a bit more).
Babs

I think that the skull design chosen is growing on me. Count me in for at least three sets (and most likely more like 5).
GalakStarscraper

Babs wrote:
I think that the skull design chosen is growing on me. Count me in for at least three sets (and most likely more like 5).


Cool we've ordered them today.

Galak
lahatiel

GalakStarscraper wrote:
Igor Tahavanale wrote:
All looks good to me. I'm in.

Now all we need are some D16's
I believe we'll be getting some of those as well before the end of the year.

Galak


So it's reasonable for me to hope to be able to combine a set or two of the new d6 dice, a d16, and perhaps some number shoulder pads -- for which I saw you mention a December target in another thread -- all into one order sometime next month?
GalakStarscraper

lahatiel wrote:
GalakStarscraper wrote:
Igor Tahavanale wrote:
All looks good to me. I'm in.

Now all we need are some D16's
I believe we'll be getting some of those as well before the end of the year.

Galak


So it's reasonable for me to hope to be able to combine a set or two of the new d6 dice, a d16, and perhaps some number shoulder pads -- for which I saw you mention a December target in another thread -- all into one order sometime next month?


Yes

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