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GalakStarscraper

Impact! purchases Nuthin' But Net board game

As of last night we finalized the terms and contract for Impact! Miniatures to purchase the full rights to the board game Nuthin' But Net.

The game is based on fantasy basketball and was designed by Ben Boersma.

This review on BoardGameGeek for the game was very positive.
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/390356

I became involved right after the game came out. The stats for the races and how teams are built is something I re-wrote to help improve the game from the way it was done in first version sold.  

Our current plans for the game are as follows:

1)  Add a sub-forum for the game on this site for questions.
2)  Host the free supplements on BBG on the Impact! main site.
3)  Have the game for sale in our store by end of July shipping from both the US and UK.
4)  The game will be sold with cardstock counters as currently done by Two Hour Wargames.   I'm going to look into options to make the board nicer than it is currently (maybe even a real board in the future).
5)  Have miniatures produced for the Goblin and Human teams by this time next year.  Since full teams for this game are only 5 figures we do hope to be able to eventually support all of the teams for the game with miniatures (without interfering too much with Impact! Elfball releases)

So we hope you enjoy the newest board game to enter our store and will like the miniatures we produce for it.

Tom
SillySod

Oooooh nice, I wondered why the forum looked different today

(where are the pirates? )
GalakStarscraper

SillySod wrote:
(where are the pirates? )
The cannon dodging pirates in chariots will be next ... yeah ... next ...  

Galak
Stout Youngblood

Looks interesting. Have to see what the budget looks like.  
Darkson

First Impact release I've been "yawn" to  - basket ball just doesn't register on my "fun times" radar.

That said, hope it works out.
SillySod

Basketball doesnt tick any of my "yay, funtimes" buttons either but I guess its alot bigger in the US.

Having said that.... I bet it has an awful lot of potential to be an interesting board game. Running speed, passing agility, physical muscle, scoring ability, height, and stamina are all elements that I can see being relevant and should allow plenty of variation and complexity. I'm not exactly up to scratch on basketball tactics but I imagine that the speed of rats plays off nicely against the physical brawn of orcs; deft ball snatches of the elves; and raging insanity of the pirates in chariots.

As a gamer the concept appeals to me. I'm very interested to see how the rules will work.
Purdindas

The review makes the the game sound amazing. I would like to give the game a shot.

Good luck with it.
GalakStarscraper

Darkson wrote:
First Impact release I've been "yawn" to  - basket ball just doesn't register on my "fun times" radar.

That said, hope it works out.
Understood ... however its a well done fantasy sports game with a very low buy in level for a customer.   The game will cost half or less than the cost of the Elfball game and a full team of miniatures will be less than half the Elfball cost as well.

Two full teams and the game should run less than $55 USD.  Overseas ... probably 35 to 40 GBP.   Put another way ... the game and two full teams should cost you pretty close to what one B-B team costs.  Which was one of the appeals to us to add it to our range of products.

So its a nice simple add to the line as we look at expanding slowly into other sports and areas.

Galak
Xtreme

Sweet hope it is successful, hope to see models for the dwarf team at some point.
Luizda

Great news Tom!!!

I'm actually reading the NBN rulebook when I see this news :D

Keep on the good work!!! ;)

PS: I'm thinking also in a Spanish translation of the game (I have to talk about that with Ben)
pixelgeek

I'm still waiting for a footy version of Elfball :-)
Dark Lord

pixelgeek wrote:
I'm still waiting for a footy version of Elfball :-)


I guess I am missing what the difference would be. Can't you just pencil that players can't use their hands and get a round ball, and go with the same rules?
pixelgeek

Well there is a goal and there would need to be some rules for goalies trying to stop shots
Thom

I am interested, looks like it could be fun!
duttydave

Re: Impact! purchases Nuthin' But Net board game

GalakStarscraper wrote:
5)  Have miniatures produced for the Goblin and Human teams by this time next year.  Since full teams for this game are only 5 figures we do hope to be able to eventually support all of the teams for the game with miniatures (without interfering too much with Impact! Elfball releases)


On the plus side, all the fantasy races in the Basketball game are fairly familiar, so until the new releases it would be fairly easy to proxy the figures with existing Elfball or FF miniatures.

Please tell me that Impact will work with JBDemon to produce or distribute the Basketball Frogs.
Boromir_and_kermit

JBDEmon's frog is nice, but if you wanted to proxy a team now, you could use RolJordan's Frog FF team, some of the poses lend themselves nicely to the Kermitians.
I'll try and post photos when I finish painting mine up.
Cheers,
Ben.
GalakStarscraper

pixelgeek wrote:
Well there is a goal and there would need to be some rules for goalies trying to stop shots


I would think that would a simple modification to the game.   Probably something we could host as a free PDF on the site.

Basically you change the circle around the goal so that any ball passing through it scores a goal (ie the white line around the goal no longer bounces the ball).

Then you forbid anyone other than the goalie to run into any hex adjacent to a goal.  Automatic ejection for the remainder of the Test if you move or are shoved into a hex adjacent to the goal and are not the goalie for that goal.

If the goalie is removed from the game that team must designate the new player which becomes the goalie.

Scoring is done with a Throw Challenge to get it into the goal hex.

An interception challenge is modified so that the player designated as the goalie is allowed to interception a ball that travels through his hex or any hex he is adjacent to (including if that hex is occupied).  A successful interception means the goalie takes possession of the ball in the hex he was in (ie don't move the goalie for an interception challenge).

And voila ... I think you pretty much have football/soccer rules for Elfball.

Galak
Dark Lord

I think for a true soccer experience you should use a rectangular pitch and place the goal as the center squares of the endzone. (Widezones are open field)

That way the goal has to move to position to block the ball. That, Galak suggestions and viola! Soccer.
Mephisto

GalakStarscraper wrote:
pixelgeek wrote:
Well there is a goal and there would need to be some rules for goalies trying to stop shots


I would think that would a simple modification to the game.   Probably something we could host as a free PDF on the site.

Basically you change the circle around the goal so that any ball passing through it scores a goal (ie the white line around the goal no longer bounces the ball).

Then you forbid anyone other than the goalie to run into any hex adjacent to a goal.  Automatic ejection for the remainder of the Test if you move or are shoved into a hex adjacent to the goal and are not the goalie for that goal.

If the goalie is removed from the game that team must designate the new player which becomes the goalie.

Scoring is done with a Throw Challenge to get it into the goal hex.

An interception challenge is modified so that the player designated as the goalie is allowed to interception a ball that travels through his hex or any hex he is adjacent to (including if that hex is occupied).  A successful interception means the goalie takes possession of the ball in the hex he was in (ie don't move the goalie for an interception challenge).

And voila ... I think you pretty much have football/soccer rules for Elfball.

Galak




You haven't played soccer (football) or watched a game, do you?
Mad Jackal

Luizda wrote:
Great news Tom!!!

I'm actually reading the NBN rulebook when I see this news :D

Keep on the good work!!! ;)

PS: I'm thinking also in a Spanish translation of the game (I have to talk about that with Ben)


Any way you could link me to them, send me a copy or instruct me where to find said rules?

I'm not "excited" about basketball, but several of my local players might be...
SillySod

The possibility to throw into the goal is an excellent variant that lends itself well to the mechanics, thanks
GalakStarscraper

Mad Jackal wrote:


Any way you could link me to them, send me a copy or instruct me where to find said rules?
The rules were never posted free on the internet and we are not planning on hosting the basic game for free either because that is basically the entire game.

And Mephisto .. yes I have watched soccer.  But I don't see the need to try to translate all the rules for soccer to create an Elfball version of it (just like Elfball doesn't try to closely match the rules for rugby which it is based on either).

Galak
thordallim

looks promising
Sherman

Shouldn't this be posted to the home page for Impact?  There is a lot of interesting stuff that gets mentioned here but only three news items on the main page.  Even just a quick headline with a link to the thread here would be nice to show how much cool stuff is happening with this company.
GalakStarscraper

The short answer is yes it should.

The long answer involves time spent on a day job that makes web updating very difficukt.

Tom
Mad Jackal

[quote="GalakStarscraper"]
Mad Jackal wrote:


The rules were never posted free on the internet and we are not planning on hosting the basic game for free either because that is basically the entire game.



Galak


Fair enough.  He left out the bit where he'd bought a copy so that assumption I made came up short.

off to checks pockets for $ to buy said rules (and game).
GalakStarscraper

Mad Jackal wrote:
off to checks pockets for $ to buy said rules (and game).
The game should be around $15.   I'm checking to get the main board printed but it should be pretty inexpensive.

Tom
Boromir_and_kermit

Just remember Mad Jackal, the game may cost money, but you can download two fairly meaty expansions for free.
Make sure you download them and check them out. They introduce quite a lot of new stuff.

Ben.
Lychanthrope

I'll wait for Impact! to sell it, then I'm on it as I think I can afford this game.
GalakStarscraper

Pricing right now looks like this:

$15 USD for the game
$19 USD for a full team of 5 players

Based on the sizes of players ... I plan on offering a deal where we sell the game and any two teams of your choice for $50 USD when we reach that point (ie have at least two teams worth of sculpts).   Like I said ... a very affordable miniatures game.

Galak
Xtreme

If the game is ready by GenCon i'll be buying one looks like it could be fun.  One question I do have though is game length, how long does it take to play a game?
GalakStarscraper

Xtreme wrote:
If the game is ready by GenCon i'll be buying one looks like it could be fun.  One question I do have though is game length, how long does it take to play a game?


Hopefully Ben who has played many games can answer that.  I think it plays very quickly.   So it really becomes a matter of how many points you play to.

I'm still a novice on answering those questions.

Galak
Mad Jackal

GalakStarscraper wrote:
Pricing right now looks like this:

$15 USD for the game
$19 USD for a full team of 5 players

Based on the sizes of players ... I plan on offering a deal where we sell the game and any two teams of your choice for $50 USD when we reach that point (ie have at least two teams worth of sculpts).   Like I said ... a very affordable miniatures game.

Galak


If my mind is not completelty shot. I still have $30 credit from the Gen Con best selling figs contest...... that would be two of them... :)

http://artistsunited.myfreeforum.org/about2124.html gets me 1/2 way there.  Now I just need to sort through my e-mails, pms and what not to see if ordered anything with that... :)
Boromir_and_kermit

Nuthin But Net does play quite quickly.

A standard game is to 21 points, but I would recommend for the first few games that you play, that you reduce this to 11 points.

This will give you time to wrap your head around the game as the mechanics are different. But once you grasp them, they are very easy.

I would say you should be able to get an 11 point game in half an hour quite easily (maybe not your first couple of games though ) a 21 point game in around 50minutes to an hour depending on the play style and experience. Once your players start improving, games can be very fast and furious!

If there are any other questions you would like answered. Ask away. :)

Cheers,
Ben (The game's designer)
duttydave

This game has fired my imagination and I'm looking forward to playing it.

Is the game still going to be ready to order by the end of July?
GalakStarscraper

duttydave wrote:
This game has fired my imagination and I'm looking forward to playing it.

Is the game still going to be ready to order by the end of July?
I hope so ... I was waiting to get some key componentes so we could sell it and the last pieces are falling in place soon I believe.

Galak
duttydave

Thanks Galak

I get paid shortly so will wait until this hits the store before blowing my minis/gaming budget this month.
MyKi#1

I can see myself playing this game... Hopefully i am better at this than Elfball and Fantasy Football.

I look forward to seeing the minis for this game and reading the rules.

MyKi
bound for glory

tom, not to get off topic here, but did you ever ask neil about razorball? you aske3d me to remind you...
GalakStarscraper

bound for glory wrote:
tom, not to get off topic here, but did you ever ask neil about razorball? you aske3d me to remind you...


Going to need to wait on that.   We just don't have the funds to make an offer on Razorball.

Make you a deal ... I'll ask Neil if it could be for sale just as a just in case we get back on our feet.

Galak
MyKi#1

Do you have any concepts on how the players/minis will look for this game, if not already in production. And where do i get my copy of the rules  

MyKi
Boromir_and_kermit

G'day Myki,

Mooroolbark eh?
That's about 10mins from my best mate's house.
Are you a member of a games club down that way?

Cheers,
Ben.
GalakStarscraper

GalakStarscraper wrote:
Make you a deal ... I'll ask Neil if it could be for sale just as a just in case we get back on our feet.

Galak
Email sent.

Galak
MyKi#1

Boromir_and_kermit wrote:
G'day Myki,

Mooroolbark eh?
That's about 10mins from my best mate's house.
Are you a member of a games club down that way?

Cheers,
Ben.

I'm in Croydon now just round the corner. And Im a part of the MBBL, as there are no leagues in or around the mooroolbark croydon areas.
GalakStarscraper

MyKi#1 wrote:
Do you have any concepts on how the players/minis will look for this game, if not already in production. And where do i get my copy of the rules  

MyKi
My current goal is to have the game in the store by next weekend ... I think that is doable.

Miniatures for the game will be based on artwork from the rulebook but will not be ready until 2010.

Galak
MyKi#1

Awesome i look forward to purchasing the rulebook and awaiting the minis... Shouldn't be too hard to make my own though.
One other thing, do you have a list of races, or will it be the same as FF/EB?

Cheers
MyKi
GalakStarscraper

MyKi#1 wrote:
One other thing, do you have a list of races


http://artistsunited.myfreeforum.org/about2339.html

Galak
MyKi#1

Awesome thanks for the link Tom.
Torok

Re: Impact! purchases Nuthin' But Net board game

Tom,
Please let me know when the rules as rewritten are available. I picked up the earlier version of NBN from THW and quite like the game. Figures and a better court being made for NBN is great news!

GalakStarscraper wrote:
As of last night we finalized the terms and contract for Impact! Miniatures to purchase the full rights to the board game Nuthin' But Net.

The game is based on fantasy basketball and was designed by Ben Boersma.

This review on BoardGameGeek for the game was very positive.
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/390356

I became involved right after the game came out. The stats for the races and how teams are built is something I re-wrote to help improve the game from the way it was done in first version sold.  

Our current plans for the game are as follows:

1)  Add a sub-forum for the game on this site for questions.
2)  Host the free supplements on BBG on the Impact! main site.
3)  Have the game for sale in our store by end of July shipping from both the US and UK.
4)  The game will be sold with cardstock counters as currently done by Two Hour Wargames.   I'm going to look into options to make the board nicer than it is currently (maybe even a real board in the future).
5)  Have miniatures produced for the Goblin and Human teams by this time next year.  Since full teams for this game are only 5 figures we do hope to be able to eventually support all of the teams for the game with miniatures (without interfering too much with Impact! Elfball releases)

So we hope you enjoy the newest board game to enter our store and will like the miniatures we produce for it.

Tom
Darkson

Is there really any need to re-post Tom's original post?
Lychanthrope

Relax Darkson.       Notice only 1 post = new.    
GalakStarscraper

Re: Impact! purchases Nuthin' But Net board game

Torok wrote:
Tom,
Please let me know when the rules as rewritten are available. I picked up the earlier version of NBN from THW and quite like the game. Figures and a better court being made for NBN is great news!
Ramsay told me we could not purchase the game unless I had it ready by GenCon so I've only got a few more days to have it ready.

Galak
brownrob

Darkson wrote:
Is there really any need to re-post Tom's original post?


Grumpy old man!!!!  
Darkson

brownrob wrote:
Darkson wrote:
Is there really any need to re-post Tom's original post?


Grumpy old man!!!!  


Yep!  Turning 38 has been really bad for my "grumpy old man" quotient.
Thom

Only 38? You're still a kitten!
Lychanthrope

I was going to say something along those lines also, but considering how old Brownrob is, Darkson is an Old Man.  That makes you and I Older-then-dirt!        
Darkson

Yeah, I think Rob's just celebrated his 12th birthday - I hear jelly and ice cream were on the party menu...
Dark Lord

Darkson wrote:
jelly and ice cream


WTF? I think I may be about to learn the English have a different word for something, once again.

Jelly and ice cream? I'm scratching my head as to what you eat with ice cream that could be called jelly. Jell-O maybe?
MyKi#1

Jelly=Jam jell-o=Jelly... is that along the lines you were thinking DL?
Darkson

Not our fault you colonials can't use the language properly. ;)
GalakStarscraper

Darkson wrote:
Not our fault you colonials can't use the language properly. ;)


Okay now I need to ask a follow up.

If Jell-O = Jelly.

What do you call the thing you put on a sandwich with Peanut Butter for small kids ... here that a PB&J (ie Peanut Butter & Jelly).

Galak
mattwakeman

Jam.

We use the same words, but with oh so different meanings.
Darkson

And kicking someone in the fanny is oh so different over here.  
Dark Lord

I knew fanny, because of fanny packs.

Didn't know jell-o wasn't the universal name for gelatin.
Norse

well, if I was going to be pedantic, I would point out that British jam actually contains far more fruit and sugar than the American jelly which is mostly gelatin and flavourings and colourings.

So while the two are used the same way, a good jar of Jam (like your great auntie used to make!) is a whole lot nicer than a jar of jelly...

and after two years in the US, I still struggle with a few things:

I can no longer wear trainers, or take the lift, or wear pants under my trousers, or buy crisps, or fill up with petrol, or look under the bonnet of my car or in the boot of my car or buy nappies for my kids or enjoy Autumn, or worst of all, I can't even publicly put a fag in my mouth..    
Stout Youngblood

Norse wrote:
well, if I was going to be pedantic, I would point out that British jam actually contains far more fruit and sugar than the American jelly which is mostly gelatin and flavourings and colourings.

So while the two are used the same way, a good jar of Jam (like your great auntie used to make!) is a whole lot nicer than a jar of jelly...

and after two years in the US, I still struggle with a few things:

I can no longer wear trainers, or take the lift, or wear pants under my trousers, or buy crisps, or fill up with petrol, or look under the bonnet of my car or in the boot of my car or buy nappies for my kids or enjoy Autumn, or worst of all, I can't even publicly put a fag in my mouth..    


Ah, what sacrifices one makes for the almighty dollar, urm, pound, euro...

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