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GalakStarscraper

Those Indian Summers are brutal

So I'm in Chicago so my employer of 18 years can take all his equipment back and personally wipe me off thier books (like they did my entire department).

Anyway ... I'm in the hotel as this will take 2 days to do and I check email this morning to handle any urgent Impact! manners.   Its around 50 F degrees in Chicago.  I live about 200 miles south of Chicago and I see according to my helpful new Windows Vista laptop that my home town of Fishers is having an Indian Summer.   Wow ... hope the wife dress the kids lightly today as I know yesterday we made sure they had long sleeves as it was only 45 F.   Probably better pack water for them as well today.

Have I mentioned how much I love the fact that my new laptop only had the option of having Vista installed on it.    

Norse

wow, that's pretty hot Tom..  last may we had a few days in the 100s where I live and we almost caused a brownout with the AirCo..

in the 50s in NY right now, will be 70s by lunch..
Dark Lord

I don't think that's right, Norse.    I doubt it's been 109F in Fishers since the 1930's or so.

As for Vista...yeah that's going the way of Windows ME.

Since I'm a PC and an artist I get asked condescending questions about Windows all the time from Mac people. I was already asked if I will upgrade to Windows 7.

I gave the same answer I gave for Vista. I will upgrade when SP2 is released.

Microsoft should have repackaged XP with SP2 and maybe some other token features/software and sold it for $50. I know a bunch of people (myself included) who would pay $50 just to have a legit copy of their OS. I know more folks with that attitude than I know folks willing to shell out $200 on an OS that may or may be a nightmare.
Darkson

Until someone hacks...sorry, makes some free software that will allow me to upgrade to Win7 from my XP system without having to do a clean install (i.e. lose all my documents), I won't even consider upgrading.
Dark Lord

I do a clean install about once a year.
Although, I have hard copies of anything important so wiping it out doesn't bother me.
Nyarlathotep

I dual-boot Ubuntu & XP on one computer, I run Kubuntu on another, and run XP on my laptop.  

I installed Kubuntu on my sister's new netbook, dual-boot with Vista.  She boots Kubuntu 99% of the time (because vista is such a resource hog it takes 10 minutes to boot - and this is a new install!)  Kubuntu boots in about 20 seconds, following login & password.

I won't pay anything for another Microsoft operating system. If one ships on a box I buy, I'll refuse the EULA and ask for a refund from the manufacturer.
Dark Lord

I don't hate MS with a passion or anything, but I think that having no competition and the market demanding computers with pre-installed operating systems created weakness in their products. Windows 95 & 98 were good products for their time. Windows 2000 was decent and I think XP is great (tho I agree, it is a resource hog).

Vista and a few others are products that never should have made it to the market, but did so only because of the mistaken notion that they need something "new" every few years to keep people buying their products.
I don't have a business degree but it seems to me that the sales spike you get from products like Vista, ME and others is later canceled by the shadow it creates over your next product...one that is actually good (or so I hear) like Windows 7.

As I have said, a million times, if between XP and Win7 they would have just repackaged XP with all the service packs, throw in some new apps and maybe a couple new games, and wallpapers and sold the whole bundle for $50 they would have still made money, and not had the Vista storm clouds hanging over their heads.

Not to mention that they could have tried being honest about Vista's failures and addressed them, rather than just sweeping them under the rug.  
Thom

I happen to like XP and I was a diehard IE fan until I found Google Chrome. . . Chrome ROCKS!

Win 7 is going to be what Vista should have been, and Vista, like Win 2K & Win ME will go the way of the Dodo. But I suspect that XP will remain around a long time, much like Win 98 did.

I play City of Hero's & City of Villain's and that just cannot be done with anything but Windows XP/Vista and more recently Mac OS X. For that reason alone, Lynux/Linux/BSD whatever flavor just won't serve me.
Dark Lord

Thom wrote:
For that reason alone, Lynux/Linux/BSD whatever flavor just won't serve me.


Nyarlathotep

Dark Lord wrote:
Thom wrote:
For that reason alone, Lynux/Linux/BSD whatever flavor just won't serve me.


Linux: Most people aren't interested in assembling their car completely from scratch either.


:)

I'm one of the weird people who has been tempted to build a car from the chassis up.  

But the flavors of Ubuntu aren't a scratchbuilt prospect.  They work as soon as it's installed.  

Gentoo on the other hand is a user-compiled version.  The upside of this is that it's one of the fastest Linux operating systems out there.

I agree that MS should have simply started selling XP with the 3 service packs and such.  That would have been a much wiser prospect than what they did.  Vista got a horrible reputation because it wanted way more resources than what cheaper PCs could offer.  Because that's the growth area of PC sales nowadays, the manufacturers were stuck between a rock and a hard place.  Now that a few years have gone by, and the PC manufacturers are building and selling the Vista-capable PCs, Windows 7 won't suffer that backlash.  I honestly think that MS will eventually give their operating system away for free and live off sales of their other software packages (like Office).  

And Thom?  You could investigate Wine:

http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=2141

Chrome does rock.  And it's available for Linux, too. :)
Thom

So does that mean Wine Runs CoH or that they are just looking for volunteers to make it run?
Nyarlathotep

It means that wine runs CoH on Ubuntu.  Not so much on Gentoo.

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