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SillySod



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark Lord wrote:
Something like roll 2D6

2 Snow - Replace 4 rare cards with 4 snow cards
3 Rain - Replace 4 rare cards with 4 rain cards
4-10 Nice - Replace 4 rare cards with 4 nice cards (Maybe this would be where you would get crowd effects.)
11 Sunny - Replace 4 rare cards with 4 sun cards
12 Torrid - Replace 4 rare cards with 4 heat cards


I wonder where you came up with that dice table from

Having different weather cards would be a pretty neat idea but you want to keep it simple. How about having the weather cards as "roll a dice (blah blah blah) 1-3 sunny, 4-6 snowy"?



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SillySod wrote:
I wonder where you came up with that dice table from


What's wrong with that? Sorry, but Bl00d B0wl didn't invent 2D6 dice rolls or the bell curve for events.

SillySod wrote:
Having different weather cards would be a pretty neat idea but you want to keep it simple. How about having the weather cards as "roll a dice (blah blah blah) 1-3 sunny, 4-6 snowy"?


I don't see what is so complex that you are having an issue with. Before the match you roll 2D6. If you get a weather result you insert 4 cards into the deck and shuffle. What is so complex about that?

I don't see any more complexity in rolling 2D6 before the match and dropping in 4 cards, than rolling every time you draw a weather card and having to remember that the weather has just jumped from one effect to another. I'm also not really interested in having a game that swings from blizzard conditions to blistering heat in a matter of an hour. We have that game already.  
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was thinking about weather and its effects and that it should be quite subtle in comparison to the other game. In there it can be just too extreme and I would rather it is something that can be very slight. Something like in sunny weather you have to reroll one successful die (if you threw any that is) just to make it a little bit harder to do something rather than it being game changing. Will have to think about other effects but that is more the kind of thing that I would like to see.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree.
After we play tested the cards, we tweaked a couple of them for the same reasons. We still haven't played a game where I would say the cards determined the winner (except for ties, of course). But we tweaked a couple just as both a precationary measure and to make them have less of an effect.
I'd hate to see weather effects added and undo that, because we really do like the cards around here. I am currently in the process of creating a PDF of slick professional looking cards to print out.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know, in regards to the weather there is another option that doesn't involve adding new cards to the deck. Instead, make a card that has all of the results for each type of weather (with no weather events on most cards). Now, every time you draw a card your event will make sense with the current weather.

So you roll rainy weather, and you set your weather marker to "rain". Then every time you draw a card (That isn't a no unusual event card) you look for the entry marked with your weather on it.

So, you draw a card and get:

Sunny: Blinding sunlight, +1 successes needed on next pass attempt
Rain: Sudden downpour, +1 successes needed on next disengage
Snow: Gust of wind, +1 success needed on any catch challenge made this turn


You get the idea. Would that resolve the issue with changing up the deck? It also allows for more weather-specific events if desired.
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Dark Lord



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only problem I see with that is that you would need to create over 150 different cards for that.  

And since I am actually literally in the middle of creating proper cards for Elfball as I write this, I'd prefer not to expand my work load!  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark Lord wrote:
The only problem I see with that is that you would need to create over 150 different cards for that.  

And since I am actually literally in the middle of creating proper cards for Elfball as I write this, I'd prefer not to expand my work load!  


Hehe, don't expand it on my account!

But for the cards, I must have misspoken. I meant have all of the weather effects on one card, so you'd draw a card and look for the entry on the card that matched your weather.

Still, I look forward to seeing the final version!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah! That's a good idea!

Hmmn...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, reading my first post I completely flummoxed it. Sorry about that, it is now edited to make sense...



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