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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update for this evening:

Implemented support for a settings file. This will allow the user to specify what keyboard shortcuts they want for the game as well as other settings that they might want to update.

A brief diversion from the game , but I've been meaning to finish off this piece of functionality and given that I had somewhat limited time tonight it seemed like a good time to get to work on it.



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cephalopod wrote:
Update for this evening:

Implemented support for a settings file. This will allow the user to specify what keyboard shortcuts they want for the game as well as other settings that they might want to update.

A brief diversion from the game , but I've been meaning to finish off this piece of functionality and given that I had somewhat limited time tonight it seemed like a good time to get to work on it.


Great job Ceph. I understand how these little projects can add up and demand to be dealt with. Happens to me all the time when writing analysis tools

Sounds like you're going to have an alpha hotseat client up soon? *
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

keep up the good work.  It is great to hear how this is progressing.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpha will be along in a bit. I anticipate that I should be able to spend more time programming shortly.

That being said, once I get this all together I'll probably look at redoing a lot of the textures and images. While I'm posting I'll go ahead and pose a question:

The reason you're seeing rendering lag is that the field image is very large, and it gets repainted along with everything else. On low end machines, like Netbooks such as the MSI Wind and Asus EEE PC this effect is even more pronounced.

So, that being said I am once again debating about the image used for the playing field. I'm leaning towards getting a bunch of different textures (one for each race which will be displayed as the default "homefield" image. I figure that will add a little variation and visual interest for each game) instead of one very large image again. I just don't like the performance hit in a program that I'm hoping can be run almost anywhere, including a port to Android OS cell phones one of these days.

Thoughts?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they are going to be back ground textures I could make grass, stone, dirt etc images that seamlessly tile. Is it faster to tile an image 20 times or load one big one?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Way, way, way faster to tile than to load one big image. The reason is one of resource allocation. If you load a small image you just store it in memory once, and then you tell the computer to draw it a bunch of times.

The large image is something that takes up a lot of space, and drawing it takes a long time since it is so big. Even with all of the clipping and what not that I'm doing to cut down on draw times.

On my Nvidia 8800 card it draws fast. On my Intel 945 card it draws very, very slowly.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the image spec you said before are 1900 x 1200 pixels. That pretty much only leaves 100 x 100 pixel tiles as an option. However if you did 2000 x 1200 I could do 400 x 400 or 200 x 200.

100 pixel tiles


400 pixel tiles


IMO if the image size can change then go for it, if that's a hassle I don't think the 100 pixel tiles look that bad.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for those. I suppose one thing that might help is a bunch of sprites that never move and get drawn just for visual interest. Small rocks, skeletal hands, etc.  
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can probably do that. It'll take longer.    Gimmee a minute.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take your time. It was more in the neighborhood of a musing as opposed to a demand.  

Thank you for the textures. I'll try to put something together so that people can customize the appearance of the field to their liking in some small way.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can do some other textures too. Rocks, sand, dead weeds, etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark Lord wrote:
I can do some other textures too. Rocks, sand, dead weeds, etc.


We should probably get a list of field types going:

Black Widows: Normal grass
Samhaino: Dead grass
Siringit: Long grass
Dwarf(either type): Rock
Pharaohs: Sand
Gnomes: Normal Grass
Gnolls: Normal Grass
Middle Kingdoms: Normal Grass
Divine Wind: Normal Grass
Desert Dogs: Sand
Valkyries: Snow/Ice

One day, if they become a real team...

Oceanic: Sand(beach)

I'll think of the rest later.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cephalopod wrote:
We should probably get a list of field types going:

Black Widows: Normal grass
Samhaino: Dead grass
Siringit: Long grass
Dwarf(either type): Rock
Pharaohs: Sand
Gnomes: Normal Grass
Gnolls: Normal Grass
Middle Kingdoms: Normal Grass
Divine Wind: Normal Grass
Desert Dogs: Sand
Valkyries: Snow/Ice

One day, if they become a real team...

Oceanic: Sand(beach)

I'll think of the rest later.


Would you be able to easily do sprites scattered about that were unique to each team?

Example:
Samhaino: Dead grass...in a pumpkin patch.
Gnomes: Normal grass...in a junk yard.

etc You get the idea. Otherwise simple bones and debris would be okay.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know, that wouldn't be hard and would be a really good idea. I could do that without much difficulty.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark Lord wrote:
Would you be able to easily do sprites scattered about that were unique to each team?

Example:
Samhaino: Dead grass...in a pumpkin patch.
Gnomes: Normal grass...in a junk yard.

etc You get the idea. Otherwise simple bones and debris would be okay.


Brilliant idea.


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