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Norse The One, the Only

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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Simon, you are being totally wooed by the paint job.. same goes for the recent Griff and Zug models that a lot of people are raving about.. phenomenal 20 hour paint jobs make an average model look good.. the reaper mini looks like a 2 hour paint job to me.. if the same painter had done both minis you would probably like them both equally..
the Grandma Wendy mini has more facial expression, the reaper mini a much more realistic pose.. facial expression wins 9 times out of 10 because humans look at faces first most of the time (yes, even us blokes know how to look up occasionally.. )
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Darkson On his best behaviour

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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 12:15 am Post subject: |
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Doubt it's the paint job - I didn't honestly think that much of the new Griff, nice paintjob or not, whereas I didn't think much of the paint job on the Zug I did like (the helmet in the air one we're not getting).
Probably because I can't paint for toffee myself, so don't put to much stock on painting.
Still can't put my figer on why I don't like the Reaper one, though you might be right on the facial details - maybe it looks slightly elvish to me. _________________ What the hell am I doing on a mini's forum? I DON'T PAINT!!!
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MidniteXpress

Joined: 14 Feb 2009 Posts: 128
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 4:12 am Post subject: |
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| Darkson wrote: |
Still can't put my figer on why I don't like the Reaper one, though you might be right on the facial details - maybe it looks slightly elvish to me. |
yeah i see what you're saying, especially with the forked spear. although mu first reaction was that he was spanish lol _________________ MidniteXpress
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Xtreme

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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 5:29 am Post subject: |
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| Darkson wrote: | (the helmet in the air one we're not getting).
| Speak for yourself.  _________________ Zlurpee Forums
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brownrob Web Monkey #1

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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 8:48 am Post subject: |
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| Norse wrote: | because humans look at faces first most of the time (yes, even us blokes know how to look up occasionally.. ) |
Some more than most!
I couldnt resist!
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Norse The One, the Only

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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 11:38 am Post subject: |
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Mrs Norse is 5'10" mate, I spend most of my time with a crick in my neck..  _________________ in this company my painting skills are limited at best.. |
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SillySod

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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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I have to say that I think Wendy miniatures are usually better and frequently alot better than their competition. I especially like their plastic ranges... partly because they look good and partly because they're generally easy to mix and match and convert into FF, Gorkamorka, and other stuf.
Having said that I havent bought anything to use for 40k or Fantasy in years, I think the last thing I got was the battle for skull pass box when it first came out. This is partly because I've started doing other things and partly because I just dont want to fork out the increasing amounts of money you need for an army (buying an army in small stages is a recipe for disaster). I do still buy myself the odd plastic boxed set to build FF teams out of (because those are small managable projects with a sensible pricetag) but unless I earn alot of money in the future I just dont see myself ever buying in bulk.
Then again I think its rulebook changes that irritate me the most. The creation of the Apocalypse "OMG buy more stuff to get us out of financial trouble" rules was pretty much the last straw  _________________ Elfball is for girls...... and pigs apparently, I know which one I am :D |
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Dark Lord

Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 2682
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| SillySod wrote: | | I have to say that I think Wendy miniatures are usually better and frequently alot better than their competition. I especially like their plastic ranges... partly because they look good and partly because they're generally easy to mix and match and convert into FF, Gorkamorka, and other stuf. |
Ease of use and compatibility are not the same to me as aesthetics. I too like the plastic multi-parts. But I refuse to pay $35 for 16 plastic minis. No way.
And I would agree that Grandma Wendy's figs WERE much better looking than other companies, but now I just don't see it. Not because Grandma Wendy has gotten that much worse, I would say more bland, but other companies have gotten that much better. Plus all the guys who used to be almost exclusive to Grandma Wendy are all over the place now. I would love to hear some specifics or comparisons. I wouldn't try to rebut them because it's all opinion, but I really just don't see what makes them so unique anymore.
It's like the books. Anyone who has owned or read the books Slaves to Darkness and The Lost and the Damned can attest that at the time those books came out (and even now) the artwork was incredible, the content was spilling over and the generally the books were in the "WHOAH!" range of coolness.
What have they made like that in the last 5 years? I feel the same about the minis. I wouldn't call anything they have made in the minis department horrible (well maybe the Hubris Rakarth mini), but I would call it bland and boring. But I must be alone since Grandma Wendy is losing ground in an ever expanding arena. The current store I go to doesn't even sell Grandma Wendy stuff...can you believe it? An game shop with NO Grandma Wendy merchandise. The owner told me that he sweated over the decision but he just couldn't take the way they were treating him. Now he says, if he had kept Grandma Wendy stuff he probably would have been worse off. That's a big one for me. I like to support my local shops and buying from Grandma Wendy undermines FLGS...even when you buy it from their stores.
And when you start stacking Grandma Wendy stuff up next to stuff from Privateer Press, Rackham, Wyrd and others I can't see how people can still claim Grandma Wendy's superiority in the sculpting department. Like I said, it's all opinion but justifying their prices by saying their minis are far better than anyone else's is an opinion that I can't even wrap my brain around. _________________ "I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody."
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Darkson On his best behaviour

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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Never said they were better than Rackham, nor Privateer, though tbh, I've never actually seen any of those "in the flesh", as nowhere I know of near here sells them (and I only go to London for FF tourneys, so no time to shop).
| SillySod wrote: | | Then again I think its rulebook changes that irritate me the most. The creation of the Apocalypse "OMG buy more stuff to get us out of financial trouble" rules was pretty much the last straw |
I, and my clubmates, actually like the new 40K rles (in fact I stopped playing in 3rd and 4th editions, and it was only the latest one that drew me back in, and that's despite the 40K fluff being my favourite), but we also ignored the Apocalypse stuff - saw it for what it was. _________________ What the hell am I doing on a mini's forum? I DON'T PAINT!!!
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Dark Lord

Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 2682
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Darkson wrote: | | Never said they were better than Rackham, nor Privateer, though tbh, I've never actually seen any of those "in the flesh", as nowhere I know of near here sells them (and I only go to London for FF tourneys, so no time to shop). |
I guess when you said "companies like Reaper" I assumed you meant any non-Grandma Wendy. I didn't know you just didn't like Reaper's brand. To each his own I guess, but like I said Reaper uses the same sculptors as Privateer, Ral Partha, Freebooter and others. I know Jes Goodwin is still at Grandma Wendy but how much sculpting he does, I don't know. It's hard to say since Grandma Wendy is not in the habit of crediting artists.
If you don't like Reaper minis that's fine I suppose. I can't argue different tastes, I just wish you would give an example of what makes Grandma Wendy's figs "far superior." It's hard for me to see. Like I said, it's personal taste so it's not like I can say you're wrong because you like smooth egg headed minis with a scratch over one eye, compared to sculpted hair and limbs of equal length.
As far as rules...yeah...I don't think I will ever buy Grandma Wendy rules again. There are just too many other companies that have built better rules, and some are even free. Warmachine/Hordes & The Warengine come to mind. Warmachine in particular just crushes 40K on so many levels it's not even a contest. It's cheaper, more fun, has better minis, and is played in stores without a-hole clerks and smelly kids. SOLD! _________________ "I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody."
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MidniteXpress

Joined: 14 Feb 2009 Posts: 128
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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DL, can you adopt me? lol sounds like you have a pretty good gaming area where you are (stores and gamers).
i think grandma has pretty much peaked, whereas most of the other companies are still impoving and are surpassing the old gal. it's a bit like D&D. they were the first and best for a long time, and now there are other rpgs of equal or better quality, people still have this nostalgia for the big name.
grandma has become bland (but still good quality) and is far far too overpriced. i can'r see me buying from grandma again unless they freshen up the ranges and lower their prices....which of course they won't do _________________ MidniteXpress
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Mephisto

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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 1:19 am Post subject: |
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| Darkson wrote: | Doubt it's the paint job - I didn't honestly think that much of the new Griff, nice paintjob or not, whereas I didn't think much of the paint job on the Zug I did like (the helmet in the air one we're not getting).
Probably because I can't paint for toffee myself, so don't put to much stock on painting.
Still can't put my figer on why I don't like the Reaper one, though you might be right on the facial details - maybe it looks slightly elvish to me. |
I had that model some weeks ago in my hands... even his hand with the helmet had been removed and replaced by a claw... (I could have killed my friend for it). Anyway, a great model.
I am starting to play WH Fantasy and perhaps LOTR, but only because I buy their stuff at waylandgames or megaminis, online store which offer from 20-50% discount. If that wouldn't be the case, I would not do it. |
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Dark Lord

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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| MidniteXpress wrote: | | DL, can you adopt me? lol sounds like you have a pretty good gaming area where you are (stores and gamers). |
Believe me, I am appreciative. Where I lived before had one game store, run by a-holes and it was a 20 minute drive with nowhere to park. Here there are 3 main stores and some other shops that sell games, comics, action figures and books to pad it out. Plus there's a large enough number of role players to actually have an official RPG group that does monthly meet & greets. It's a blast! I am currently running TMNT, playing Vampire: The Masquerade, Call of Cthulhu, Elfball, several other boardgames, and sooner or later we will be playing Slipstream, Buffy, All Flesh Must Be Eaten or Mutants & Masterminds. Or maybe even a couple of them if the wife lets me out that many nights a week!
| MidniteXpress wrote: | | i think grandma has pretty much peaked, whereas most of the other companies are still impoving and are surpassing the old gal. it's a bit like D&D. they were the first and best for a long time, and now there are other rpgs of equal or better quality, people still have this nostalgia for the big name. |
I think you're exactly right. I find the phenomenon of 4th edition equally as strange as the Grandma Wendy one. I have not played it but sat in on a session...it was terrible! The combat was sooooo slow and the amount HP on everything was ridiculous. The mage had nearly the same number of HP as the Paladin! WTF?! And role playing? Forget it, what's the point? That game just doesn't know if it wants to be a minis wargame, a dungeon crawl or an RPG and so it tries to be all three and fails at all of them.
| MidniteXpress wrote: | | grandma has become bland (but still good quality) and is far far too overpriced. i can'r see me buying from grandma again unless they freshen up the ranges and lower their prices....which of course they won't do |
That's the way I see it. The minis at a sensible price would be nothing special to me. At the price they are now, they are horrible. _________________ "I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody."
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Xtreme

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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Mephisto wrote: |
I had that model some weeks ago in my hands... even his hand with the helmet had been removed and replaced by a claw... (I could have killed my friend for it). Anyway, a great model.
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Mephisto

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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Xtreme wrote: | | Mephisto wrote: |
I had that model some weeks ago in my hands... even his hand with the helmet had been removed and replaced by a claw... (I could have killed my friend for it). Anyway, a great model.
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Are you talking about the Zug model? |
The Zug model which has not been published and who was only a limited edition that was given to the Grandma Wendy staff. Yeah, I mean that. I had it in my hands. 
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