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Skipbidder



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark Lord wrote:

Too slow for a "normal" boardgamer? What games is this guy playing?


Several of the top games at Board Game Geeks are really engaging games that last under an hour. Race for the Galaxy, Ra, Pandemic, San Juan, Lord of the Rings: Confrontation are all top 50 there and run in the 30 minute to 45 minute range. Others like Puerto Rico, Power Grid, Caylus, Princes of Florence check in at the 90 to 120 minute range. These tend to be games described there as "Euros". I suspect that your rater has rather selfishly chosen to define the Euro as a normal boardgame. This is distinguished from "Ameritrash" (which, by the way, is often used in an endearing way). Think Axis and Allies, Twilight Imperium, War of the Ring. These tend to be longer plays. More complicated rules, with complexity or realism valued more than ease of learning or shorter play times. Also tend to have gobs of plastic. :)
The game which apparently is not mentioned by name on this site is much closer to an Ameritrash game than a Euro.

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Dark Lord



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But there are plenty of Ameritrash games that last 2 hours...even longer!
There are also lots of mainstream boardgames that last 90 minutes or more...monopoly instantly comes to mind, as does Risk.

Seems a very minor nitpick to me.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark Lord wrote:
But there are plenty of Ameritrash games that last 2 hours...even longer!


Tons of them do. I wasn't trying to suggest that they don't. I was trying to suggest where the reviewer was coming from. I think that when he said "normal boardgamer", he was being egocentric. His preference is probably for Euros and he looks down on Ameritrashers. I personally quite enjoy some AT games, some of them with very long durations. Their length is frequently a problem, however. I'd love to get Fury of Dracula on the table more often, but an honest admission that it's a four hour game is enough to squelch most chances. Advanced Civilization is an 8 hour game if everyone knows how to play and you are a slave driver. It's been 5 years since I've played, and opponents swore never to play again. :)

The nit I was picking wasn't yours. It belonged to the reviewer on BGG.
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Dark Lord



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well same here. I was picking his nit. We are agreeing...just in different languages I guess.  

Speaking of Ameritrash we just played Last Night On Earth.

Awesome game. Loads of fun! We played it with a friendly couple.

The last scenario was wives vs. husbands. The ladies were the zombie and the hubby heroes goal was to destroy three spawning pits in 18 turns. It came down to turn 3 and a draw that denied us of the dynamite we desperately needed. We also were down to only 3 of the 8 heroes! And 2 of those had a card on them that stated if we took one more wound we turned into zombies!!

Man, women are ruthless!  
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark Lord wrote:
Man, women are ruthless!  


You are just coming to this conclusion? Remember what Eve did to Adam?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, she showed him her  


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Norse wrote:
yeah, she showed him her  



And we men have suffered for it, every moment since then...

... oops, excuse me, did I say that? Have to go back to helping my fiancee plan our wedding now!  
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not even married yet and already he can't say what he wants on a gaming forum...

Bad sign...

Seriously though, good luck with the preparations. Is the big day far ahead?
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