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Darkson
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love the ref idea, though I want on as a player as well.

Oh, and the coach sounded a laugh to.....



Dammit DL, do all three.


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fatgoblin



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To expand on the RTV thing, yup it stands for Room Temperature Vulcanizing. the key point being exactly that. The mould making process normally used for making metal miniatures vulcanises the mould rubber at high tempratures. Ok for epoxy putty like green stuff and pro-create, but will melt plastics and sculpty.

Most people use it to make moulds for resin casting.

The first time I came across this rtv thing was reading it on Hirst website. A pretty nice and easy to follow explanation of what it is all about
http://www.hirstarts.com/moldmake/moldmaking.html

An expensive alternative is to use that to make a mould. Then cast a master using a special resin that can restand high temperature. And than use that resin master to make the mould for mass metal reproduction.
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Dark Lord



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So many projects!

I feel like I'm back in school! Arrgh!

Well I have been wanting to learn miniature sculpting for some time. Like I said, I have sculpted before...just not tiny and not for molds.

But I also planned on setting up a screen printing operation over the summer. I have the basics already and I figured I could offer you guys T-shirts at a lower price than you can get online...and still make a decent profit for me! (Overseas, I don't know because shipping might wipe out the savings)

So now I have, sculpting to learn, T-shirts to make, minis to paint, and I'd like to see if I could throw together some pdf reference cards for Elfball.
On top of all that I have to get a job (ACK!) and we are trying to move to a house or duplex. (our charming little apartment has lost its charm and is now just little...plus our new neighbors put the trash in white trash.)
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Lychanthrope



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking some more about these and thought that if you made 12 or so eye stalks on a spruce then had 3 different heads you could easliy come up with a variety of different looking heads.
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Babs



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have only one thing to say about the Beholder:

IGMEOY! LOL!
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fatgoblin



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

btw, someone linked to this picture on the Forum of doom,
http://www.cheddarmongers.org/pro.../S_Shields+show+2007+008.jpg.html
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Dark Lord



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

God that would be a cool Elfball team!
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lahatiel



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice! The dark grey one in the back, just right of center, is an oooold Ral Partha model -- I've had that one laying around unpainted for probably 15 years or so.
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Lychanthrope



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thread Necromancy:  OK DL hows the sculpt coming for the Beholder referee?    
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Dark Lord



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Terrible.

In my arrogance I figured "I'm an artist and a sculptor, I should be able to sculpt minis!" I was wrong.

I need to start with some simple humanoid shapes first.

In the secret weapon rules that I created I made referees of Goblins, Dwarves, Humans, Elves and Beholders. Elves and Beholders are the only ones without minis from either Grandma Wendy or Impact. I may try to do the elf first.

But before I do that I plan on doing some simple humans/elves with weapons. I can do it, I just need to work with the stuff first and practice.
And for me that's really the most frustrating part. I don't like learning new media! I remember when I hated charcoal. I didn't know how to use it, and I just hated it...but after a couple months of practice I didn't want to use anything else.

So stay tuned. It will come...probably by the time Tom releases secret weapon rules!  
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark Lord wrote:
In my arrogance I figured "I'm an artist and a sculptor, I should be able to sculpt minis!" I was wrong.

It takes some to admit to stuff like this.  Good Luck on the artistic growth issues.    
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Classical art training is more about learning to critique your own work than it is about learning techniques.  

And that's both ways. It's probably harder to learn to see the good parts of your own "bad" work.
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